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If the EROI for solar farms is so low, why would you invest; the answer applies to subsidies paid by taxpayers and ratepayers; us mugs.

The Coalition Government strategy is to reset the climate agenda to a lower level of compliance but without attracting trade treaty disputes; so the politicians check the polls to determine what the voters support.

Some local news:

The Moroa Rd solar farm (adjacent to Transpowers Greytown Substation) has an Interim Consent, not a final Consent from the Environment Court. This means that the Resource Consent will be granted when a COMPREHENSIVE set of conditions have been negotiated by the Far North Solar Farm and the South Wairarapa District Council planners with the Court. The Court has given the FNSF the opportunity to "remedy areas of deficiency"; another way of identifying the FNSF as dumb grifters.

The local opposition to FNSF is well resourced with people expert in dealing with the Deep State including the gravy train grifters and of course the Woketearoa at Meridian.

The outcome of this event maybe a gold standard which will hopefully tell the Renewable Developers to get lost.

There is another perspective which readers may not fully understand. There is a Transpower single circuit 110 kV transmission line between Haywards at Lower Hutt and Bunnythorpe north of Palmerston North. I can't remember it's rating but my estimate it's about 300A or about 60 MW.

The Renewable Developers are smart enough to find out the local farmers who wish to sell or lease their land nearest to the Transpower substations such as Greytown and Masterton (also in front of the Environment Court) or are close to the 110KV line near Mt Munro which Meridian has the Consent.

Will there be a ratings issue? Who is going to pay for the additional infrastructure? Once the cheap sites are gone, wouldn't the more expensive sites mean the price of Renewable electricity will increase even further? Noting that if the wind drops and a cloud covers the sun, aren't we dependent on fossil fuels to bridge the gap? Just wondering.

Some foreign news; COP30 in Brazil; check out Matthew Wielicki podcast today about climate change hypocrisy; the reason NZ should ditch the Paris Accord.

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Can't help but think that there is a disconnect between your "Mining, refining, and assembling batteries consumes enormous energy, and that energy generally isn’t getting cheaper" and the fact that China has in recent years installed a massive amount of solar generating capacity which has reduced energy costs for them throughout their manufacturing sector.

Also the degree of electrification of transportation in China is now impacted significantly in their fossil fuel consumption which will potentially destabilise international oil demand and prices so the future in terms of energy supplies and pricing has many moving parts and any crystal ball gazing is little more than just that.

The one guaranteed factor is that wind and sunlight are unlimited resources and the economics of harvesting this 'free' energy will continue to put solar and wind a step or two further up the ladder than their declining resource competitor, fossil fuels.

The problem we have here in NZ is that the major electricity generators are working within a framework that rewards scarcity of supply and use of comparatively expensive thermal generation. That regulatory platform needs to change so that renewable generation can compete fairly, and hydro capacity can be used in a huge utility scale battery capacity instead of being a weapon to hold back other renewable generation entrants.

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